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[door creaking]

[mule snorts]

- DRIVER: Step up.

[lively music]

- ADAM ARNOLD: It was not comfortable.

But it was one of the best ways to get around.

[lively music]

With modern cars, we're spoiled by rides

that are perfectly smooth, quiet, and climate controlled.

[lively music]

- JONATHAN FAILOR: We've often heard people say,

"Well, the past was simpler times,"

and I think this provides some perspective on that.

- GREETER: Welcome to Fanthorp Inn.

- JONATHAN: We turn a faucet and hot water is there,

we flush the toilet and waste goes away,

we go to our thermostat if we're slightly uncomfortable,

so this provides perspective.

And perhaps could change peoples' minds

about how we view the past.

- There aren't a lot of stagecoach inns left.

- Fanthorp Inn is probably one

of the best preserved stagecoach stops in all of Texas.

It started off in the early 1830s,

grew to a rather large stagecoach inn in the 1850s.

Ceased operation in 1867, and what's so special

about this place, it is a unique opportunity

to walk into the past and see how people traveled,

the types of accommodations that were available to folks,

how people exchanged information and learned

of what was happening.

You can maybe get the tiniest glimpse

of what life was like in the 19th century.

- Now if you had more money, you could stay

in a private room like we have going down this hall.

- Henry Fanthorp was an English immigrant

who was born in 1790, twice widowed,

came to the United States, eventually settling in Texas,

marrying the daughter of a local landowner

and establishing his family here.

- ADAM: Fanthorp Inn is an hour and a half drive

north of Houston,

at the end of Main Street in the town of Anderson, Texas.

Historically speaking, the town was situated

on an old Spanish road known as La Bahia,

one of the main arteries for travel back

in the 19th century.

- They immediately started having guests

because they're on a very busy road.

- As the inn grew in popularity,

it would eventually become a stopping point

for five different stagecoach lines.

- A whip is a helpful tool for a stagecoach driver.

They use the sound to direct their team.

[whip cracks]

So we're always careful not to hit the team.

- JONATHAN: Fanthorp Inn is open Saturday and Sunday.

- The bed is a rope frame bed

- JONATHAN: Select Saturdays, usually the second Saturday

of the month, we offer stagecoach rides,

and that's what we're doing today.

- PASSENGER: Here we go!

- ADAM: Most people find it fun,

for the short time they're in it.

- And this is on a paved street.

It would probably be more wobbly out on the trail.

- JONATHAN: Even though it is just a 10 or 15-minute ride,

to feel the coach rock you back and forth,

it gives us the opportunity to say,

"Wow, I can really appreciate now

what my ancestors had to endure."

[lively music]

- We're here, that was fun.

- JONATHAN: Welcome to Fanthorp Inn.

- He stayed postmaster for only two years.

I bet y'all can't tell me what country that came from.

- MAN: England.

- From New England.

It came into Texas during a time

when we were still separate nations.

In 1834, we were still a Mexican territory.

- This inn has sat in Mexico,

the Republic of Texas, the Confederate States of America,

and the United States of America,

and has never once been moved.

So, it has resided in four countries

and never changed its location,

and that's pretty remarkable to think about.

There are lots of famous people through this area

like Anson Jones, the last President of Texas.

Sam Houston of course.

We're not far from Washington on the Brazos,

which is, in 1836, where Texas declared independence

from Mexico on March the 2nd.

Of course, Henry Fanthorp had already

established his home here.

So, there are a lot of very important events

that occurred here that still have a footprint

on what we are today.

[floorboards creak]

The creak of a floor,

the waviness when you look through the glass window,

the smell of wood that permeates the building,

the cicadas right now.

All of that sort of adds to this experience

to where, if you just closed your eyes,

you could almost hear someone clapping along to a song

and boots shuffling across the floor.

It's those things that I enjoy thinking about,

that we can experience something similar to what they did.

[string music]

- If you're really looking for something unique,

if you want to give your kids an experience of a lifetime.

- ADAM: You could ride a stage,

stand where Sam Houston stood,

there's just so much unique history associated

with the inn and the Fanthorp family,

it's just worth a visit.

[string music]

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Willie Nelson Tells Texas Fans To Vote Democrat, Fans Have Perfect Counter-Offer - Duration: 4:13.

Willie Nelson raised the ire of his conservative fan base this week by telling Texans to vote

Democrat.

His fans, however, had a perfect counter-offer for the liberal musician.

On Wednesday, musician Willie Nelson announced that he had agreed to headline an upcoming

rally for Texas Democrat Beto O'Rourke, who is challenging Republican incumbent Ted

Cruz in the increasingly tight senatorial race.

It will mark the very first time the 85-year-old has ever campaigned for a political candidate.

"My wife Annie and I have met and spoken with Beto and we share his concern for the

direction things are headed," Nelson said in a press release.

"Beto embodies what is special about Texas, an energy and an integrity that is completely

genuine."

Needless to say, Willie's fans were not happy, and they issued him a perfect counter-offer:

Go ahead and campaign for your Democrats, we will stop buying your music and tickets

to your shows.

Some Willie Nelson fans are seeing red after learning the country musician will be headlining

a rally for Democratic Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke.

Dozens of people weighed in on Willie's Facebook page Wednesday after he shared a

story about the upcoming rally in Austin.

While some people told Willie he needs to stay out of politics, others threw insults

at the music legend.

Still others applauded Willie's contribution to the 2018 campaign.

The event is set for Sept. 29 at Austin's Auditorium Shores.

Nelson is scheduled to perform alongside Joe Ely, Carrie Rodriguez, Tameca Jones and Nelson's

sons, Lukas and Micah Nelson.

[Source: ABC 13]

According to The Daily Wire, country music fans shared their disappointment via social

media.

"Goodbye Willie, I don't support socialist commies!

You're not going to advertise on my FB page either.

Like we say in Texas, Now Git!" wrote one Facebook user.

"I agree, really thought Willie had more sense than this.

Of course, Beto wants to legalize Marijuana!

Lol," commented someone else.

"Good bye Willie…you are not on the right side.. take a look around you and do the right

thing…I always thought you were a patriot…wow what a let down.

You would pick a socialist agenda and an Anti American fellow like BETO, shame on you,"

wrote another social media user.

"Willie you just lost over half of your fans by getting involved in politics!!

Fan no more!!

I cannot believe you support open borders and gun control!!

You have smoked too much dope!

I guess that is what you and Beta have in common!" remarked another disappointed fan.

Yet another person wrote, "I knew you were a liberal in your personal beliefs.

That was obvious, but to each their own.

But you had to take it to the public.

Just when I thought you were smarter than that…I find you are not…Such a shame to

get on the showboat.

You just lost some of your I am above it all."

These entertainers just can't seem to get it through their thick skulls — we want

to enjoy their singing, acting, comedy, etc.

We're not interested in getting a lecture on politics from someone who has no idea what

it's like to face the struggles of everyday Americans.

Willie Nelson is entitled to his opinion, just like the rest of us.

But his opinion isn't worth more just because he's famous.

And therein lies the mistake that celebrities make by using their platform to promote an

agenda: They don't know more than the rest of us.

They're not any better informed.

They should just shut up and sing.

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Texas Law and the NP Scope of Practice - Dr. John Gonzalez - Duration: 1:12:09.

- [John] In this section of our scope of practice lecture,

we will review Texas laws and how they impact and affect

the AGACNP scope of practice.

This, again, is specifically for Texas

and does not apply outside of Texas.

So if you're not a Texas resident,

or not getting licensed in Texas,

you do not necessarily need to listen to this lecture.

So these are the specific Texas laws we will look at

and we'll start with the Texas Board of Medicine.

You are an AGACNP working for an intensivist group

who provides telemedicine consultation services

to a rural hospital without an intensivist program.

What Texas law or rule governs telemedicine practice

and is this within the scope of practice?

So we're gonna answer these two questions

in the next couple of slides.

So we do have a law, and it's the Texas Occupational Code,

Title 3 Health Professionals, Chapter 111 Telemedicine,

that does discuss the requirements of telemedicine.

What this says is it says a treating physician

or health professional who provides or facilitates the use

of telemedicine medical services or telehealth services

must obtain informed consent prior to providing services.

So that informed consent is essential

before you even start services.

This law requires that patient confidentiality

is maintained.

It requires that a valid patient provider relationship

exists as long as the practitioner complies with

the standard of care.

The visit must be a synchronous audiovisual interaction

between the practitioner and the patient.

So doing a telephone call to the patient

is not considered a telemedicine service under state law.

It has to be an audiovisual thing.

The practitioner is required to provide guidance

on appropriate follow up care and if the patient consents

and has a PCP, the practitioner must provide the records

or a report to the PCP within 72 hours.

Cannot prescribe a drug used for abortion

via telemedicine services.

And chronic pain cannot be treated

using telemedicine services.

What was on the previous slide about telemedicine

was just in the general health and safety code of Texas law.

That is the law that gave the authority

to the Texas Medical Board

to write rules and regulations on telemedicine.

And so what we're going to look at now

is the specific Texas Medical Board rules.

So their law or rule has been around for a while

but, as of May 22 2017 it changed telemedicine.

The law changed dramatically with the passing of SB 1107.

So the law has been streamlined

and is actually more lenient now than what it was.

So this law does require physicians,

who use telemedicine services, to adopt protocols

to prevent fraud and abuse through the use of telemedicine.

Physicians must provide patients

with their privacy practices

if they communicate with the patient

with any electronic means other than telephone or facsimile.

They must obtain the patient's written

or electronic acknowledgement of receipt of the notice.

A licensed practitioner is expected to meet

the standard of care and demonstrate

professional practice standards and judgements,

consistent with all applicable statutes and rules

when issuing, dispensing, and delivering or administering

a prescription medication as a result of

a telemedicine medical service.

So, in other words, they're saying in that statement

that the practitioner is required to follow

the standard of care and just because it's telemedicine

does not mean that the practitioner is relieved from

following those standard practices.

This is where the treatment of chronic pain

is specifically prohibited.

That's in the Texas Medical Board rules.

The treatment of acute pain with scheduled medication

is allowed as well, unless it is prohibited by federal law.

Then the health professional providing health care services

or procedure via telemedicine

is subject to the same standard of care

that would apply for any in person setting.

Okay, so let's go on to our next case scenario.

Your ACNP colleague calls you to discuss scope of practice.

He is working for an intensivist group

and just recently started the position.

He is expected to make rounds on ICU patients

during the day.

The physician and the NPs split the patients

and provide care to only their team of patients.

The physicians are available for consultation

but do not routinely see the patients the NP sees.

So what Texas law rule gives us direction for this scenario?

What other agency policies must be considered?

Is this appropriate?

Is this within the scope of practice?

So, let's look at our next slide

and we'll start answering these questions.

So the Texas Medical Board has a rule in it

that is called Standing Delegation Orders.

In this, it specifically says that a physician is not liable

for the acts of a physician assistant or an APRN,

solely on the basis of having signed an order,

a standing medical order, or a standing delegation order,

a Prescriptive Authority Agreement, or other protocol.

This law further goes on to say that

a physician may delegate authority at one hospital

or two long-term care facilities.

So it's important for you to know that

even though this is in the Texas Medical Board

because as you apply for positions in Texas,

you wanna make sure that this physician

is not overextending himself because,

if he is and you don't know,

you could be putting yourself at risk.

This law ultimately says, and it's in quote,

physician supervision of the prescribing and or ordering

of a drug or device shall conform to what a reasonable,

prudent physician would find consistent

with sound medical judgment

but may vary with the education and experience of

the APRN or physician assistant.

A physician shall provide continuous supervision,

but the constant physical presence of the physician

is not required.

So that is really the statement that answers the question

of the scenario that we just read on the previous slide.

Ultimately, that scenario is within the scope of practice.

It is appropriate to do, and the physician, as you can tell,

does not have to see all the patients

because that can be a determine based on the APRN

or PA's experience.

So that is okay to do but that nurse practitioner,

in that scenario, needs to know what their limits are,

needs to know when he needs to call the physician

and collaborate with him.

And furthermore, they need to know what the hospital by-laws

and policies allow.

So that question needs to go back

to the medical staff office and say,

is this okay that we're doing this.

Finally, this medical board rule does require that

the Registration of Delegation

and Prescriptive Authority Agreements

with the Texas Medical Board.

That means that the physician is required

to let the Texas Medical Board know

who they are delegating Prescriptive Authority to

and prescriptive privileges to.

So that this is done all electronically

and you can see the website there at the bottom

is where all this information came from.

So, I think this slide is our, let's see,

is what we just discussed.

So this is the NP making rounds in the hospital

and the physician's not seeing the patients.

I've already discussed this.

It is appropriate and it's highly dependent upon

what the hospital would allow.

If the hospital's okay with it,

the medical staff office is okay with it,

then it's perfectly okay.

But, again, the NP needs to know

when he or she needs to collaborate with the physician.

How does the Texas State Board of Pharmacy

regulate APRN practice in Texas?

So they have the Prescriptions Law,

it's Texas Occupational Code, Title 3, et cetera,

and in this law it mandates that

prescriptions of dangerous drugs be in compliance

with all state and federal regulations.

The Texas Administrative Code, Title 22, Part 15,

Chapter 315 of the Controlled Substance Act,

went into effect September 1st of 2016.

In this, it requires the use of Official Prescription Forms

to prescribe Schedule II medications.

These forms are, we, as nurse practitioners in Texas,

do not need these forms too often.

The only times that we can prescribe

Schedule II medications, as it stands right now,

is for patients who are in the hospital

or are in an emergency room that is attached to the hospital

and are expected to have greater than 24 hour stay

if they're admitted to the hospital.

So then we can prescribe a Schedule II medication

in our order of Schedule II medication, in that instance,

but to do that we don't need these special forms.

The other time that we can prescribe Schedule II medications

is for patients who are in hospice.

So if it's an outpatient hospice scenario,

then we may very well need these forms

to prescribe the Schedule II medications.

So that would be the only reason

that we would need these forms at this date and time.

So these forms have to be ordered

from the Board of Pharmacy.

The order form has to be cosigned

by the delegating physician.

Upon termination of the physician delegation,

the forms are void and they have to be returned

back to the Board of Pharmacy.

The state Board of Pharmacy says that we have to have

a DEA number.

I've already said the use of the official form

is not required for hospitalized patients

or patients in the ED.

It is required for hospice setting patients though.

Dos and don'ts with the form.

The Board of Pharmacy says do not pre-sign these forms.

That is dangerous so don't do it.

You have to keep them in a safe place.

Do not allow use by another practitioner,

so they are registered to you and only you.

So you do not give those out to somebody else to use.

All voided forms must be accounted for.

Lost and stolen forms must be reported

by the end of business day to the Board of Pharmacy

and to the local police and if they are recovered,

then before you use them,

on the day that you recover them,

before the end of day, you have to report that back

to the Board of Pharmacy and the local police as well.

In the event that a patient has lost their prescription,

the prescriber must report the patient's name, address,

date of birth, age, and all drug information

and official prescription form number

to the Board of Pharmacy.

The Texas State Board of Pharmacy

has a Prescription Monitoring Program,

which you must be registered to use that database.

So in Texas, we are now required,

before we give a prescription for medication,

for Schedule II medications,

to go into this Prescription Monitoring Program

and see that.

All the boards, the Board of Medicine,

the Board of Pharmacy, Board of Nursing,

are all now required to monitor our activities in there.

So this is something that you need to make sure

that you get registered for and that you have access to

and if you're going to write a prescription

for a scheduled medication,

you need to go into this database and check and make sure

they weren't just issued 30 pills last week

and now you're giving them 30 pills upon discharge.

That would be inappropriate

and reason for the Board of Nursing to step in.

Now let's start looking at the Texas Board of Nursing

regulations and rules.

So one thing that's important for you to know is that

as an APRN you are obligated still

to the Nurse Practice Act

and just because you are now a nurse practitioner

does not mean that you can not follow

the Nurse Practice Act.

It just means that you have more rules to follow.

So let's look at this first question.

Which of the following is the most appropriate way

to sign your name and credentials after you have received

licensure as an AGACNP in Texas?

John Smith AGACNP-BC, MSN,

John Smith AGACNP-BC,

John Smith RN, AGACNP-BC,

or John Smith RN, NP?

So hopefully you realized that the third bullet point

that uses the RN and the AGACNP title

is the most appropriate.

In Texas we are required to always hold ourself out

as a registered nurse even though we are

an advance practice nurse.

So you have to hold out that you're a registered nurse

and identify that you're a registered nurse

and you should be identifying what type of

nurse practitioner or what type of APRN you are.

So I've already said this but this is answering the question

that I just asked.

This rule is in Texas Occupational Code, Chapter 301 Nurses,

Subchapter 8, and it requires us to use our RN title

and the correct APRN title.

So the Texas Board of Nursing,

I'm wondering, for those of you who live in Texas,

if you knew that the Texas Board of Nursing had a rule about

RNs performing radiologic procedures.

Usually when I ask this question in class,

I get a lot of, no, I didn't know that.

And so they do and it's important that you understand this.

What this law says is that RNs performing

radiologic procedures outside of a hospital

which participates in Medicare,

or is accredited by Joint Commission,

must register with the Board of Nursing.

So there are those free standing radiologic centers

that if an RN works at doing procedures,

they must register with the Board of Nursing.

You can see that this law also states that

they must follow the other laws listed below,

or listed on your screen.

So the Texas Board of Nursing requires

a minimal education of APRN.

So for those of you who are mad because we made you take

patho and pharm and all those good things,

I know you don't think they're good,

this is part of the reason why.

'Cause the Texas Board of Nursing requires it

and you wouldn't be able to get licensed otherwise.

Also, national organizations require that,

national certifying bodies require that,

that you have these separate courses.

The Board of Nursing requires that you have a minimum of

500 non-duplicated hours in your role and specialty

and that your education is at the master's level or higher.

I put that in there just so you can get

a different perspective of the requirements

that we've put you through.

We're just not trying to be mean, I promise.

So additionally, the Texas Board of Nursing

specifically states that APRN titles are protected

in Texas and one cannot hold themselves out to be

an APRN with a specific title

unless they hold that license to do so.

APRN licensure requirements.

The Texas Board of Nursing says you have to meet

certain requirements in order to be licensed.

So you have to have a valid RN license

that is unencumbered in Texas.

You have to submit documentation

that the educational requirements have been met.

You must have at least 400 hours of current practice

in the role, for which you are applying,

within the last two years.

You have to have 20 hours of continuing education

specific to the population or role you're applying.

In order to renew, in Texas we do renew the APRN license

every two years, just like the RN license.

They mandate that you have a minimum of

400 hours of practice every two years

and there are continuing education requirements.

The Texas Board of Nursing has a rule which is 221.12,

that is titled Scope of Practice.

In this rule the Board recognizes that

the scope of practice is variable and dependent on

the education and certification of the APRN.

They state that scope of practice shall be defined by

the national professional specialty organizations

or APRN organizations recognized by the Board of Nursing.

APRNs may only perform those functions

which are within their scope of practice.

In this rule they say that the APRN scope of practice

shall be in addition to the scope of practice

permitted by an RN.

So they identify that the RN scope of practice

and the APRN scope of practice is different.

But why is it important for you to understand that this

Board of Nursing has this rule?

It is important because if it's a rule,

you are obligated to abide by it.

So in this rule, they say that national nursing policy

defines a scope of practice.

So you, by default, are responsible for understanding

what national nursing policy says about scope of practice

and following that.

Which is why we went through all of the various

scopes of practice and how it is defined by,

nationally from the national nursing organizations.

It is important that you understand that

so that you work within your scope of practice,

because if you ever have to defend your scope of practice

to the Board of Nursing,

an answer of I don't know will not protect you.

On the Board of Nursing website,

the Texas Board of Nursing gives us some general information

about scope of practice.

Again, this is not one of their rules

but this is just on this more information

on the scope of practice as they define it.

So this is separate from the rules.

We'll get back to discussing the specific rules in a minute.

But it's important that you understand

and know where this information is

because this is important for you to know

and this is how the Board of Nursing sees scope of practice.

So, if you ever go to the Board of Nursing website,

go to the main page and there's a link that says

scope of practice.

If you click on there, you'll see the APRN scope of practice

and they give us more information on the scope of practice.

So on this portion of the website,

they say that the scope of practice is defined as

those activities that an individual health care provider

performs in the delivery of patient care.

Scope of practice reflects the types of patients

for whom the advanced practice registered nurse can care,

what procedures and activities the advanced practice

registered nurse can perform, and influences the ability of

the advanced practice registered nurse

to seek reimbursement for services provided.

They identify that there are two types of scope of practice

and that is the professional scope, which,

according to Board Rule 221.12,

is defined by the national APRN organizations

that are recognized by the Board.

Then they also identify that there's an individual

scope of practice.

They define the individual scope of practice as based on

the education, licensure, and certification

of the individual.

They do recognize it evolves over time,

based on your work experience, but there are finite limits

to the expansion of the individual scope of practice

without going back to school.

So, in other words,

you can expand your individual scope of practice

but it still has to remain within the scope of practice

as defined by the national nursing organizations.

So, as an acute care NP,

if you worked in the hospital service for 10 years

and decided you want to go into critical care

and learn how to drop lines and do critical care stuff,

you could do that and that would be within

your individual scope of practice

and your national scope of practice.

But, for instance, for an FMP who says now I wanna work with

critical care patients, I wanna learn how to intubate,

et cetera, that would not be within

their individual scope of practice

or their national scope of practice

and on the job training would not prepare them

for that role.

Therefore they would have to go back to school

and go through an acute care NP program,

and sit the certification,

get licensed in order to do those tasks.

Likewise, if an acute care NP wanted to do something

that fell within the primary care NP scope of practice,

they would have to go back and get formal education,

certification, licensure to do that.

Again, on the Board of Nursing's website

where it talks about scope of practice,

they give us some questions that really help us

guide our decisions about whether something, an activity,

a procedure, et cetera, is within our scope of practice.

So these questions that they provide on their website

help us to determine that.

So they recommend these questions.

The first question is, is it consistent with

one's professional scope of practice?

So, in other words, is it consistent with

how the national nursing organization

has defined your scope of practice?

If yes, you're in good shape.

Is it legal?

That's what the second bullet point says.

And legal doesn't mean just state.

It also means federal.

So if it's legal for you to do it,

then it's within your scope of practice.

Is it consistent with one's education

in the role and specialty?

So if it is, if you were educated and it's consistent with

your role, then you are likely to be able to do it.

The next bullet point is, is it consistent with

the scope of one's recognized title?

If so, then you're okay.

Or does it evolve into another advanced practice title,

recognized by the Board,

requiring additional formal education and legal recognition?

If it evolves into another title,

and I kinda discussed that already on the previous screen,

then it's not within your scope of practice.

Is it consistent with the standards of nursing practice

outlined in 2.17?

In that rule of 2.17 says that we have to promote

interventions that are safe.

We have to make referrals

and we only accept those assignments

that we are educationally prepared for.

So if what you wanna do is consistent with

Board Rule 217.11, then it's within your scope of practice.

Is it consistent with evidence-based care?

If yes, you're good.

The Board of Nursing requires that we practice

evidence-based care.

So that's why this is the question here.

We can't just willy-nilly decide to prescribe something

with no evidence behind it.

Is it consistent with reasonable and prudent practice?

That is a judgment call but if you can answer yes to that

then you're in good shape.

And then finally, are you willing to accept accountability

and liability for the activity and outcomes?

If yes then you're good to go.

So the Core Standards of Nursing Practice.

This is one of the Board of Nursing rules

and it's specifically rule 221.13.

We, again, as we go through

the Texas Board of Nursing information,

most of these are the rules that the Board of Nursing

have made that apply to APRN practice

and so the title at the top, for instance, on this screen,

is Core Standards of Practice.

That is the name of the rule, 221.13.

So most of these Texas Board of Nursing slides

are named after the rule

and we're discussing the specific rule and how it applies

to your nursing practice.

All of these are important for you to know

because they impact your practice.

So in the Core Standards of Nursing Practice for APRNs,

the Board of Nursing requires the following.

APRNs shall conform to Texas Nurse Practice Act.

All current board rules, regulations,

standards of professional nursing, all federal, state,

and local laws, rules and regulations

affecting the APRN role.

So in this Board rule, they tie you into knowing everything

and being accountable for knowing everything.

Nursing policy, the Nurse Practice Act,

all the rules and regulations, federal, state and local law.

So it's important that you have an understanding of

all of that, which is why we go through

as much as we go through in these lectures

on scope of practice.

This rule also states that APRNs must practice

within their scope of practice and it states

when providing medical aspects of care,

APRNs must work under a protocol or written authorization.

The authorization must be developed by the APRN

and physician together.

It has to be signed by both parties

and signed and reviewed annually.

It must be maintained in the practice setting of the APRN

and must be available as necessary

to verify authority to provide medical aspects of care.

Also, this rule specifically states that

APRNs retain professional accountability

for advanced practice care.

That's really important for you to know

because just because a physician cosigns an order

or signs a practice agreement for you

or delegation agreement,

that does not mean that they are responsible for

your actions.

So you specifically and me specifically,

we individually specifically hold accountability

for our practice as APRNs.

So the Board of Nursing requires continuing education

of us as nurse practitioners.

We have to have the 20 hours every two years

specific to our role, our APRN role.

If you maintain current certification in your role

you can meet this requirement.

You don't have to do the extra 20,

however you need to make sure that you have

the specific additional categories that are required.

So APRNs with Prescriptive Authority

need five additional hours in pharmacotherapeutics

per two years.

If you're prescribing controlled substances,

you need an additional three hours of controlled substances.

CME education approved are credited for physicians

is appropriate to use as your continuing education

and then APRNs and nurses who work in the ED

have to have continuing education

on forensic evidence collection

and that must be done before they do their first exam.

Additional requirements, APRNs who treat tick borne disease

should have continuing education within their role

and population focus

related to the treatment of these diseases.

We're still obligated to have the

Nursing Jurisprudence and Ethics every two years,

a minimum of two hours,

and then we also have to have two hours of CEs

required to geriatric care every two years.

So the rule that governs Prescriptive Authority,

that's what we'll talk about next.

You may be, this is something that may get

a little confusing.

You may be an APRN and not have Prescriptive Authority.

When you apply to be a nurse practitioner or another APRN,

you have to apply for that

and then you have to apply for prescriptive privileges,

and if you don't apply for prescriptive privileges,

you will not be granted those privileges

and you will not be able to prescribe anything.

So what's the point?

So this rule outlines what is standard prescribing practices

and what is requirement.

This rule says we need a Prescriptive Authority Agreement

or facility based agreement to prescribe medications.

Must prescribe within our scope of practice.

Again, they're tying us into scope of practice.

We must comply with the chart review requirements

that are in the PAA or facility based agreement.

The prescription requirements include

the patient information, drug information, the DEA number

if it's a controlled substance, date, et cetera.

I'll let you read those things.

And then this law also states that

we may prescribe only those medications

which are FDA approved.

So if they're not approved by the FDA with their indications

or an FDA approved drug to be given in the US,

we can't prescribe it.

So there is some exceptions to this

according to the Board rules.

One of the exceptions is that if it is a research protocol,

we can prescribe it then.

And then the other exception would be

if the medication that we're prescribing

doesn't have an indication for it

but is a generally acceptable practice

that it's okay to prescribe.

A good example of that is Zofran.

Zofran does not have an indication for general nausea

and vomiting but we constantly prescribe Zofran

for nausea and vomiting 'cause it's a fairly safe drug.

So that's a good example of how it's not indicated

for what we prescribe but it's a generally accepted practice

and considered safe and so that would be okay to do

under the Texas State Board of Nursing.

So the Prescriptive Authority Agreement,

you will have an assignment in practicum

to do a Prescriptive Authority Agreement.

And so this is, we'll have a separate overview

on the Prescriptive Authority Agreement

but I'm gonna tell you what the law says about it now.

So this is the Board rule.

The Prescriptive Authority Agreement is the mechanism

by which APRNs are delegated the authority

to order or prescribe drugs or devices by a physician.

This agreement should be used

mainly in an outpatient setting.

It can be used for inpatient settings

but ideally it's best suited for an outpatient setting only.

If a nurse practitioner is working

both outpatient and inpatient,

they can use this for both settings.

The Board of Nursing says that it has to have

certain requirements in it

and so it has to be written down,

has to have the name and address of the practice.

All providers, license numbers and names have to be on it.

You identify the drugs which may or may not be prescribed.

One must provide a plan for consultations and referrals

and for addressing emergencies.

State the general process of communicating

between the APRN and the physician.

Describe a prescriptive quality assurance

and improvement plan.

The APRN may undergo quality reviews with another physician

if it is so designated

in the Prescriptive Authority Agreement.

A copy of this has to be maintained for two years

and then the physician must notify you

if they are being investigated by the Board of Medicine

and you must let the physician know

if you come under investigation by the Board of Nursing.

So just really quick about

the Prescriptive Authority Agreement.

This, again, is best suited for the outpatient setting.

Under this law, we are required,

when we use this Prescriptive Authority Agreement, to,

the quality assurance review portion of this rule

mandates that we have monthly meetings with our physician

to discuss cases in our prescriptive practices.

Those monthly meetings have to occur face to face

and they are ongoing for three years.

After those three years then those face to face meetings

happen every three months

and then you can do telephonic meetings every month.

But they still occur monthly but how they occur changes.

So ultimately, this can be very tedious

which is why I say if you're going to work

in the inpatient setting, you don't wanna use this

for the inpatient setting.

You wanna use this for the outpatient setting only.

That's ideal.

But you can, if you choose, use it for both.

So the other practice protocol

is called a Facility Based Practice protocol

and that's the name of what it's called in the Board rule.

So the Facility Based Practice protocol

is what you use on the inpatient side.

You can only use this on the inpatient side.

You cannot use this on the outpatient side.

And this is the protocol that is used to give authority

to the APRN to prescribe drugs and devices.

Again, this should be used only on the inpatient setting,

not in the outpatient setting.

You should have some type of quality process

defined in this protocol

but it does not need to be anywhere near extensive

as the PAA.

Remember, this has to be reviewed annually and signed.

You have to keep this for two years.

This rule allows for us to prescribe and order in a facility

in which the delegating physician is the medical director.

So I've got this last sentence highlighted in red,

or written in red, because it's very important.

'Cause this rule states that the APRN can only order

or prescribe drugs and devices for the care or treatment

of only those patients for whom physicians have given

their prior consent.

So under this law, a medical director for a group can do

all the delegation for the group.

So if there's 40 physicians in the group

and the medical director is over all 40 of those physicians,

then that medical director can sign your PAA,

or your Facility Based Agreement

and delegate for all the other physicians.

However, if one of those physicians says

that they do not want you seeing their patients,

based on this rule you cannot see their patient.

It's against the law for you to do it so you can't do it.

So you have to back away from it.

So you really have to know your physicians

if you're in a group that is that large.

So let's look at a case scenario.

The Acute Care NP is working for a hospitalist group

and the medical director has delegated authority

for the AGACNP to see the practice patients in the hospital.

Upon meeting a newly hired physician, Doctor Smith,

he tells the AGACNP, I do not believe in using

nurse practitioners to care for my patients.

How should you handle this?

Based on the Facility Based Practice rule,

you cannot see that physician's patients

and you just don't do it.

Say, it's against the law, can't do it, bye.

So the authority to prescribe controlled substances.

The Board of Nursing says this must be delegated

by a physician.

We can prescribe Schedule III through V medications.

We can give up to 90 days supply

and after 90 days of supply, if we need to order any more

we must consult with the physician and document that.

None of us can prescribe for children

if you're Adult-Gero Acute Care NP,

but the law does state you cannot prescribe

scheduled medications for children under two

without prior consultation with the physician.

The prescription of Schedule II medications,

we've already talked about, but it can only be done

in certain instances.

That is in inpatient hospital setting,

in a patient who is expected to have greater than

24 hours stay in the hospital,

or for a patient who is in the Emergency Department

that is physically attached to the hospital.

And that is key.

The ED has to be physically attached to the hospital.

Doesn't matter if the hospital owns it

and it's down the street from the hospital.

That ED wouldn't qualify.

And all these free standing EDs that are just popping up,

if you're an AGACNP working in there,

or a nurse practitioner working in there,

you can't prescribe Schedule II medications

in those free standing.

It has to be physically attached to the hospital.

So we can also prescribe the Schedule II medications

for patients who are receiving hospice care

from a qualified provider.

So conditions for obtaining and distributing drug samples.

In order to maintain drug samples,

one must have this in their collaborative agreement,

whether it's a PAA or a Facility Based Agreement

and this rule requires that drug samples be maintained

and labeled and logged with specific information.

So be aware of that.

It's not just easy peasy to do that.

So Texas Board of Nursing Enforcement

Rule and Case Scenario.

So where an AGACNP colleague tells you

she has an ear infection and has written a prescription

for herself to treat the infection.

Is this legal?

Can an AGACNP write an inpatient order for a patient

to receive Vancomycin

and have the pharmacy to dose the medication?

What Texas law gives us direction

to answer these two questions?

So it is the Enforcement Rule that is made by

the Texas Board of Nursing that answers this.

So the Enforcement Rule says that any APRN who violates

the sections of this rule or orders

or prescribes in a manner that is not consistent

with the standard of care shall be subject to removal

of the authority to order or prescribe under this section

and disciplinary action by the Board.

So this tells you what you cannot do.

So ultimately, it says, ordering and prescribing medications

or devices for anything other than evidence-based regimens

or prophylactic purposes, is inappropriate.

It says that prescribing for yourself is prohibited.

Prescribing without properly assessing and documenting

the assessment prior to the ordering prescribing treatment

is inappropriate.

So prescribing for a family member or a friend.

The friend comes to you and says,

oh I need this antibiotic, can you prescribe it.

Don't do it.

It's prohibited by the Board of Nursing.

So selling, trading, and offering to sell

medication samples, prohibited.

And then delegating authority to another person to order,

prescribe, or dispense an order or prescription

for a drug or device is prohibited.

So, in our scenarios that we just discussed,

the nurse practitioner wanted to prescribe

for her ear infection, that is prohibited.

She can't do it.

Then ordering a standing order of Vancomycin in the hospital

for the pharmacy to dose, that is okay.

But I bring that up because of the last bullet point

about delegating authority to another person

to order, prescribe or dispense.

And so in the instance where we ask pharmacy

to manage the medication, we're not delegating to them

ordering and prescribing.

We've ordered the medication.

We are taking an interdisciplinary approach

to the management of the patient

and it is a very safe and appropriate practice to do.

Okay.

So we've already answered these questions.

So we'll move onto the next slide.

So the Texas Board of Nursing has a rule

that discusses pain management.

In this rule it sets the minimum standards of care

that APRNs must meet in order to manage pain.

They want you to establish a goal of therapy.

They want you to prescribe medication

in only a therapeutic manner.

Treatment must be based on a complete assessment

and they hold you accountable for obtaining

a complete assessment prior to,

and documenting prior to prescribing pain.

The evaluation of pain must include a complete history,

a focused exam, nature and intensity of the pain,

all current and past medical treatment for this pain.

Any underlying conditions and co-existing

mental health issues need to be explored and documented.

The effects of pain

on the physical and psychological function

must be assessed and documented.

History and potential for substance misuse, abuse,

and dependence and addiction

must also be explored and documented.

They say that the treatment plan must be written.

That drug information must be given to the patients.

Labs and diagnostics must be ordered appropriately.

All treatment options that are planned or considered

must be documented and discussed with the patients.

There must be plans outlined

for ongoing monitoring and evaluation,

and measures must be implemented

to determine treatment outcomes.

Consultations and referrals must be made as appropriate

and documented.

And informed consent must be obtained

prior to treating the pain.

Now as you read this rule,

and I recommend that you all go in and read this rule

at the Board of Nursing,

it really feels as though it is talking about

chronic pain management versus acute pain management.

But nowhere in this rule does it say,

oh this is only for chronic pain management.

So it does apply to all pain management,

regardless of the inpatient setting

or the outpatient setting.

So anybody that's in a primary care

or a specialty office that is treating pain

needs to make sure that they have all this stuff

documented and up to date in the medical record

prior to prescribing medication for pain.

On the inpatient side, what I do is

I make sure that I have all the qualifying information

about the pain.

When did it start, is it constant, does it come and go,

what's the severity,

what has worked for your pain in the past,

what doesn't work, what makes it better,

what makes it worse?

Those type of things.

Does it radiate?

Then I'll look at the records and see what's been given

for pain and I ask them, has that worked specifically,

and I document all those

and then I prescribe my medications.

So at a minimum, I am doing all the things

that I need to acutely evaluate and manage that pain.

On the outpatient setting,

it may be a little more extensive.

Specifically if it is chronic pain management patients.

So you need to be familiar with this rule.

This is more information on this.

I've already talked about the acute care implications

on the inpatient practice.

So I've told you how I handle this

and so I recommend that you do something very similar.

One last thing about this rule is

this rule actually prohibits nurse practitioners

from owning pain management clinics.

So you should know that.

So other laws in the state of Texas

that affect our practice.

The Heath and Safety Code, Chapter 481

of the Texas Controlled Substance Act

was updated on September 1st in 2017.

House Bill 2561 was passed which amended this Act

and imposed more licensing board oversight

over the prescription of controlled substances.

This law now requires licensing boards to publish guidelines

on the responsible prescribing of opioids, benzodiazepines,

barbiturates, and that last medication

that honestly I cannot pronounce, so I'm not even gonna try.

The Board of Nursing is now required to monitor

the information in the Prescription Monitoring Program

that is set up and monitored by the Board of Pharmacy.

So they're required to look in there and to identify

any potentially harmful prescribing practices

and act accordingly.

So APRNs are now required to check

the Prescription Monitoring Program

prior to prescribing one of these categories of drugs,

unless the patient has cancer or is in hospice care.

Any prescriptions written for pain for a cancer patient

or a hospice patient

must clearly document on the prescription and record

that the patient has cancer or is receiving hospice care.

Violation of this is grounds for disciplinary action

in this rule.

One may not be held accountable

for not checking the prescription monitoring system

if they have made a good faith effort to do so

and were unable to check it

for reasons out of their control.

So if the website is down and you're seeing patients

and you've gone in to check it and you can't,

it's not gonna be up until tomorrow,

you just need to document that in your note and say,

I've tried, the website's down.

Unsure when it's coming back up.

That way, if anything happens,

you have that documentation to support you.

Case scenario.

You're an AG ACNP working as an intensivist.

You've been coding a patient for 30 minutes

without any response.

What two Texas laws gives us direction for this scenario

and based on Texas law,

how do you wanna handle this situation?

So the Advanced Directives Law

and the Death and Disposition of the Body

help give us direction in this scenario.

So the Advanced Directives Law specifically says

before withholding or withdrawing life-sustaining treatment

from a patient, now a code is considered

life-sustaining treatment.

So before stopping that, essentially,

or any life-sustaining treatment,

the attending physician must determine if the steps proposed

are lawful and are consistent

with the patient's existing desires.

So that means that in this scenario, in the state of Texas,

we cannot stop a code because a code is considered

life-sustaining treatment.

It requires the physician to make that determination

and to say stop the code.

So in this scenario, the ACNP needs to get a physician,

tell them what's going on and ask if they wanna continue

or do they wanna stop the code

and then document that conversation.

This is not a decision in Texas that we can make.

The Death and Disposition of the Body Law also says

if artificial means of support preclude a determination

that a person's spontaneous respiratory

and circulatory functions have ceased,

the person is dead when, in the announced opinion of

a physician, according to ordinary standards of

medical practice, there is irreversible cessation of

all spontaneous brain function.

Death occurs when the relevant functions cease.

So that statement in there is saying, again,

that we cannot pronounce death

when the patient is receiving artificial means of life.

It requires a physician to make that determination.

So, again, a code is considered artificial means of life

and in that scenario,

the physician has to make that decision.

The acute care NP cannot.

Or any NP cannot.

So you're an AG ACNP working for a hospitalist group.

One of the physicians asks you to write a DNR order

on a patient.

He also asks you to complete an out of hospital DNR order

in preparation for discharge.

Based on Texas law,

how do you want to handle this situation?

It is the Advanced Directives Law

which addresses this scenario.

And so the Advanced Directives Law,

which we just talked about,

prohibits nurse practitioners from writing

out of hospital DNR orders.

Additionally, it prohibits us from writing DNR orders,

whether they're in an inpatient or an outpatient setting.

So you should not write an out of hospital DNR order

and you should not write an inpatient DNR order.

The Board of Nursing, there's a new law

that goes into effect on April 1st in 2018,

that prohibits a non-physician provider

from writing any DNR order regardless of the setting.

And so even before this law went into effect

or goes into effect, the Board of Nursing's position on that

is what you see at the bottom of your screen here

and their position is that DNR or an out of hospital

do not resuscitate order, is a medical order

that must be given by a physician.

And that is not in the Nurse Practice Act.

It is not in the Board rules.

It is on their website under frequently asked questions

for the APRN.

But that tells us

what the Board of Nursing's position is on that.

So general provisions for the Do-Not-Resuscitate Orders.

I've really already addressed this.

This is part of the Advanced Directive Law

in a Subchapter E.

This law basically states that a physician must write

the DNR order regardless of where their patient is.

Whether it's an out of hospital DNR order

or whether it's an inpatient DNR order,

the physician must do it.

We are, however, responsible, as registered nurses

and advanced practice nurses,

to make sure that if we're caring for a patient

that has a DNR order on file,

that they are aware that they have a DNR order.

This was enacted mainly because there were people out there

making patient's DNRs

against the family or patient's wishes.

Now this law has gone into effect

to protect the patient's rights and the family's rights.

So still talking about this law,

prior to the DNR being ordered, the physician, PR or nurse

must inform the patient of the order

or if the patient is incompetent make a reasonable,

diligent effort to contact the medical power of attorney,

the legal guardian, attorney, or next of kin.

If a patient arrives with a DNR order

and tells the physician, nurse, PA

then they are responsible for notifying

the patient's agents.

So this is the notification portion of the law.

The physician may revoke the DNR

if the patient or the patient's agent revokes

an advanced directive,

the patient tells a person providing the care to revoke it.

The person is then required to notify the physician

and then the attending physician may revoke the DNR

at any time.

So this means that you, as an NP, cannot revoke the DNR,

say DC the DNR.

The physician has to do it.

When it comes to writing and discontinuing a DNR order,

the physician has to do it.

But we are responsible for notifying patients of the order.

So our case scenario.

You are an AGACNP working for a cardiology practice.

The office manager comes to you and says,

Mr XYZ passed away last night from cardiomyopathy.

His family needs the death certificate signed

as soon as possible for insurance reasons.

The office manager asks you to sign

because the cardiologist is out on vacation

for the next three weeks.

So let's see if this is within our scope of practice.

So what Texas law applies here,

and it's Death Records and this law requires

that the attending physician complete the death certificate

and sign it.

How should you handle this situation?

You cannot sign the death certificate.

NPs cannot sign death certificates in Texas.

However, there is an exception.

So as of May 27, a new law was passed, SB 919,

that expanded the signing of death certificates by APRNs.

This law allows APRNs or PA to sign death certificates

for patients receiving hospice or palliative care.

These certificates must be completed and signed

within five days.

So that is the only time that we can sign

a death certificate.

So you're an acute care NP working night shift

for a hospitalist service at the community hospital.

You provide cross coverage for the hospitalized patients

and do admissions at night.

You receive a call from the RN stating that Mr ABC,

who was a DNR, passed away,

and she would like you to come and pronounce the death.

So what laws applies and how should you handle this?

So the Death and Disposition of the Body Law

is the law that governs this.

So you can pronounce the death if they are not on

artificial life support of any kind.

So you have to ensure that there is

no artificial life support.

If there is you cannot pronounce the death.

And then you need to check the facility's policy.

Some facilities in Texas will allow you to do it

and some facilities will not allow you to pronounce.

So you have to know.

The facility where I work per diem does not allow us

to pronounce death so I cannot pronounce death.

Per Texas state law, it used to require two RNs

to pronounce death,

but that two RN requirement has gone away.

Now it can be pronounced under one RN but, again,

the institution must have a policy permitting that.

So you're an AGACNP working for a hospitalist service.

You're preparing to discharge a patient

who is wheelchair bound.

The patient asks you to sign a renewal application

for the handicap parking placard.

So this law is found in the

Transportation Code of Texas state law

and this law states that we, as NPs,

can only sign the initial certification

or the application for disability placard.

Renewals must be signed by the physician.

So this is not a scenario that we can do.

If it were the initial application, we could do it,

but otherwise we cannot do that.

I have seen this law over the years go from us

not being able to do it at all, to being able to do it

in rural areas as long as the area was 100 miles

or something outside from a metropolitan area.

It may have even been more than that,

to now we can do the initial certification but nothing else.

So I'm sure this law will evolve even more over time.

But if you're sitting there laughing to yourself thinking

this is utterly ridiculous, you're absolutely right.

I think the same thing most days.

But these laws are another really good example of

why we need to be involved politically at the state level

and federal level.

These are all state laws but our voice needs to be heard.

Our legislatures need to know who we are

and what we stand for and what our practice is

so that we can change these unnecessary requirements.

Another case scenario.

So you're an AG ACNP working with a hospitalist group.

Upon reviewing your patient load in the morning,

you notice that a 14 year old male has been admitted

to your service for an asthma exacerbation.

Does your scope of practice include

taking care of adolescents?

So this is debatable.

You wanna consider your scope of practice

and whether it really includes adolescent care.

I would venture to say that adolescent care

in a outpatient specialty practice might be within the

scope of practice of the Adult-Gerontology

Acute Care NP program.

The reason I say that is because you have had

adolescent content that is considered primary care

in the program.

So you could probably argue and argue successfully that

in the outpatient setting, in a subspecialty practice

that's within your scope of practice.

On the inpatient side I don't know that we could be

just as successful in arguing that.

But your national certification says ages 13 and over.

However, when I was at a national organization

nurse practitioner faculty two years ago,

no in 2017, when I was there in 2017,

I was listening to some of the national faculty

that put together the Adult-Gerontology Acute Care

competencies that were published in 2016.

They got up and said that

even though this certification says 13 and over,

that the scope of practice is really 18 and over.

That 13 and over is for that primary care

Adult-Gerontology nurse practitioner

and for the Adult-Gerontology Acute Care it's 18 and over.

So national standards are really saying 18 and over

for the acute care NP.

So I would stay away from anybody in your setting

that is less than 18 years old.

The Texas Board of Nursing doesn't have

a specific requirement but they will defer this to

what the national nursing policies and organizations say

as far as age limitations.

Let's look at our next case scenario.

An AGACNP colleague has just graduated with her DNP.

She tells you she plans to introduce herself as Doctor ABC

to her patients.

What Texas law governs the use of the term Doctor?

That is Occupational Code Title 2, Health Professions.

In this law it governs the use of Doctor.

So ultimately it says that she can do it

but there are qualifications.

She has to identify herself as a registered nurse.

She has to say what type of Advanced Practice Specialty

she is, and she has to identify the university

granting the academic doctoral degree

and that it was an academic degree and not a medical degree.

So this law can be kind of cumbersome.

I do not personally, do not use my term doctor

with my patients.

They already think I'm a doctor

and they already confuse me with a doctor.

Every time they call me doctor, I tell them,

no, I'm a nurse practitioner.

They say, yeah but you're still my doctor.

I say, no, I'm a nurse practitioner.

She's like, well I'm just gonna call you a doctor.

I said, but you have to know that I'm a nurse practitioner.

I correct 'em every time.

If they do it three or four times, I correct them every time

because of this law, one,

and regardless of which state you're in,

you are obligated to make sure that your patients know

exactly who you are and what your degree is.

So I don't use my doctor term,

the term doctor with my patients

'cause I don't want anybody, the patient or any colleagues,

to think that I am misrepresenting myself as a doctor.

I do not ever wanna be in that situation

and the safest thing for me to do is not refer to myself

as doctor in a clinical setting to patients.

So other common questions that I've been asked.

Can you work as an RN after you graduate?

Yes you can.

There's some misconceptions going around about this.

We've had a person,

I had a graduate a couple years ago that said that

her nurse manager told her that she can't work as an RN

after she graduates because if she had an emergency

and didn't intervene, as an advanced practice nurse,

she would be held liable

and the hospital would be held liable.

Well there's so much behind that

that prevents that from happening.

One, the Board of Nursing recognizes

that your RN scope of practice is separate from

the APRN scope of practice.

Two, in Texas, and in any state,

if you're working in the hospital as a registered nurse

and you want to work as an APRN,

you have to go through the credentialing process

and receive privileges to work as a nurse practitioner

in the hospital.

If you don't have privileges to work as

a nurse practitioner, you cannot do any

advanced practice nursing skills in that hospital.

So an RN that has just graduated

is not going to have privileges to do anything

at the advanced level in the hospital.

So she can't intervene by hospital by-laws.

The third factor is,

in Texas you have to have a supervising agreement.

That is not in effect in a person who's just graduated.

So you can't operate as an APRN.

So there's other factors that this nurse manager

probably did not really understand.

Those factors come into play.

So this could not be any further from the truth.

This student, when she asked me this scenario,

I told her these things that I just said

and she also emailed the Board of Nursing,

the Texas Board of Nursing.

And the Board of Nursing basically agreed with what I said

but they also said that you will always be held accountable

to your highest level of education.

So they said if something goes wrong

and she should have known that it was a bad thing

because of her APRN education,

even though she was not licensed or credentialed

at the hospital to function as an APRN,

she would still have to act at the nursing level

based on her APRN education.

So the example that they gave her was

there is a pediatric nurse practitioner

who was working in a public health clinic and did an exam,

a well baby exam, I believe, and found a click

when they did the hip abduction test, found a click.

That nurse did not report it to the appropriate physician

and she got sanctioned by the Board.

The Board's position was a registered nurse

without the PNP education would not necessarily have known

what that click was or what to do with it.

However, because that RN had a PNP education,

she knew what to do.

She knew what that meant and that she needed to act.

Even though she wasn't working as an NP

and didn't have the delegation collaboration agreement

established and she was only working as an RN,

because she had the education of the PNP

and was working as an RN, she had a higher obligation

than an RN that didn't have that education

and a higher duty to the baby

to report that to the physician.

Whereas an RN without that education

would not have been expected by the Board of Nursing

to report that.

So you will always be held

to your highest level of education

and that's important for you to know.

So can you work as a registered nurse

after you have an NP license?

If you choose to, yes.

You can absolutely do that.

If you wanna do that.

Personally, you're coming to an NP program

because you wanted something different.

You wanted a more challenge,

you wanted to expand your skills.

I'm not sure why anybody would want to work as an RN

and an NP.

It's very hard to cross those boundaries

and at this point, I don't think I could even

work at the bedside or as a RN anymore

because I just don't think in that same manner anymore.

So it would be very hard for me to float back and forth.

But you can.

My recommendation to anybody that does that

is make sure that you do it at two different facilities.

Otherwise if you do it at the same facility,

that is gonna be really, really dicey

and I don't recommend that.

So is giving medical advice to a family or friend

or to anyone you know, appropriate?

So the answer is no.

You really shouldn't give any medical advice

to anybody and you shouldn't prescribe to anybody

'cause you can be held legally accountable

and liable for that, especially if something goes wrong.

So you wanna make sure that you don't do that.

I've had students ask me for medical advice

and I always tell them I can't give you medical advice.

I think you need to go see your physician

and that's where I go.

So that's how you should approach things too.

You don't want to inappropriately prescribe for somebody

because if something goes wrong with that

you will be sanctioned by the Board.

If they sue you and they open an official lawsuit,

that's an automatic report to the Board of Nursing.

So you don't wanna take those chances.

So one last final word between a rock and a hard place

with a patient.

So, when you find yourself

in between a rock and a hard place,

regardless of which state you're in,

whether it's an independent practice state

or a supervisory state or a collaborating state,

you want to make sure that you understand this point.

In between a rock and a hard place.

And what do I mean by that?

I mean that if the required treatment for the diagnosis

is going to make the patient worse

and then not treating them

is going to make the patient worse,

you're in between a rock and a hard place.

Those decisions are not decisions that we make

as nurse practitioners.

Those are decisions that need to be made by the physician.

My best example that I can give you

is a Doctor Carter story.

So she told me a story one time about a patient

that she was called about from the Emergency Room.

She was on call, she was about to get off in the morning,

around seven o'clock in the morning.

She receives a call from the ICU, or from the ED.

She's doing ICU cross cover and the ED says,

I've got this 25 year old patient

who's come into the Emergency Room.

She's hypoxic.

We have her intubated.

She's on 100% FIO2.

She is still standing at 85%.

We can't get it up any more.

She has a massive PE.

She is slightly hypotensive.

Do you recommend giving TPA?

She said that she told the ED,

this sounds appropriate but why are you asking.

The ED said, she just had abdominal surgery

within less than a week.

So, as you know, TPA is going to cause her to bleed

and recent surgery is a contrary indication.

That is what I mean by a rock and a hard place.

She is going to die from that PE if we don't treat her

and she is likely to bleed out if we treat her with TPA.

Death between a rock and a hard place.

When you have a scenario like that,

that is not a decision that you make.

That is a decision for the physician to make.

Doctor Carter told me she referred that to the physician.

She called him and got him in to see the patient

and they made the decision.

Ultimately they decided to treat her.

Unfortunately the patient did bleed out and died.

But the patient was forcing their hands.

They really didn't have much of a choice.

So I'm not surprised in the story that she told me

that they decided to treat her.

They were obligated to treat her.

But in those type of situations, again,

the physician has to make those decisions,

regardless of what state you're in and what your laws say.

That needs to be a physician decision.

There needs to be an extensive conversation that is had

with the patient's family or the next of kin

or their legal guardian or whoever,

to let them know of the risk and benefits

of treating the patient in this situation

and the risk and benefits of not treating the patient

in this situation.

So there are scenarios that you'll come across

as a nurse practitioner in practice

that you need to be aware that you need to know

when to collaborate with your physician.

I will say for the acute care students, for you guys,

TPA, any time you need to order TPA,

you need to discuss that with the physician

and let the physician make that decision.

Some hospitals even say that

only the physician can make that decision.

So you have to be aware of those type of things.

All right.

That is the end of this lecture.

I hope that you have learned a lot.

I've really enjoyed giving this lecture, as I always do

and you have a wonderful day.

Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Bye bye.

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