This isCouples Court With The Cutlers.
This is the case of Hicks v. Hicks.
Mrs. Hicks, you're here with your husband.
You've been recently separated
and you've just allowed your husband back in the home
in the last month. Is that correct?
Yes, Your Honor.
What is your goal with this hearing today?
Well, Your Honor, I'm here to find out the truth, hopefully,
and to see if my husband is still
dealing with a woman named Correta that he was dealing with previously
and also if he is living with another woman.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
JUDGE KEITH: Mr. Hicks, what do you have to say about that?
No.
JUDGE DANA: "No," as... No?
I haven't seen Correta in...
Since I kicked her out, uh, two years ago.
Have you been in touch with her via text
or other social media
or other technology?
Yes, I had,
through Facebook. But, but, but...
It wasn't on that level, like, you know, it was...
It's just been like small talk.
All right, Mrs. Hicks, do you believe that?
I don't really know what to believe.
He lies a lot. If I can't get the truth or, you know, if there's
still infidelity going on, then, I mean, I will have to let my marriage go.
This is what she do.
JUDGE DANA: Are you considering divorce?
Is that what I'm hearing you say?
KIONIA: Yes.
I went online and, uh, bought, we'll say...
I guess it's like a divorce book.
JUDGE DANA: Did you know that?
No.
I do have proof of... Of the receipt and everything for it.
Ron, would you please get that?
Yes, Your Honor.
So you had no idea that she had done research
and was ready to file?
She'd always say it, but like, you know,
I didn't know she was trying to take it down that route. I didn't know that.
She has bought a divorce book,
A Guide to Doing an Uncontested Divorce.
Mr. Hicks, this is serious.
I was trying to get her to understand my standpoint
so we ain't had to come to this point, you know.
Mrs. Hicks, people don't get married unhappy,
so there had to have been some happy times.
When we first got together it was, you know,
he made me laugh, he's funny and talented,
and, you know, great conversation.
All those things that kinda make you wanna, you know,
take those steps to be with someone and...
JUDGE KEITH: How did you all meet?
We were neighbors.
He lived like a house away from me.
Um, I happened to actually be walking past his house
and he kind of almost broke his neck to get outside to talk to me.
You know, and he was like, "Hey, can I get your number?"
And I'm like, "Well, I live right there. I'll be back."
JUDGE DANA: Okay.
And, I actually didn't come back that same day.
You played him off?
I did. (LAUGHS) A little bit.
No, no, no. Playing off, not "played off."
She was playing hard to get.
No, she played him off.
No. I mean, when I... I'm like, "Okay, he's not really my type."
So I kinda kept it moving.
Mr. Hicks, I gotta know,
how did you finally get the number?
When I found out she stayed like two houses down,
I was really like, you know, "You mine." You know, I go...
I walk past, I keep walking to the store, I might see her.
You know, "Hey, Kionia, how you doing?
"You still ain't text me yet." Like she said...
(ALL LAUGHING)
We eventually dated and, you know.
The rest is history.
You turned on the charm.
Oh, basically. He's the charmer.
Well, kinda like, you know, I tried to play a little hard to get.
You know what that look like.
Yeah, we dated seven years before we got married.
So I don't know how...
(ALL LAUGHING)
I don't know how much harder you could have played, but...
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
So, what went wrong?
Yeah.
KIONIA: I guess, when I caught him cheating, I should say.
This one day he's like, "Oh, I'm going with a family member. I'll be back."
Okay. So, but he left his, uh, Facebook open on a computer...
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
...and saw that he was messaging another female
and he was like trying to meet up with her.
We actually had an app on our phones
where you could track the other phone.
And it showed me the area he was in,
but by the time I got there,
he was already going to his car.
And he saw me and kinda... So he kinda like hurried up and took off.
And I followed him and it was like a big mess.
But you never saw another woman.
Regardless if there was another woman, let's just start there.
You told her you were at a family member's house
but you weren't. Is that right?
Yes.
JUDGE KEITH: Okay. So...
That was a lie right there.
TERENCE: Oh. Yeah.
Okay. All right, now...
It really was another woman, wasn't it?
Yes, Your Honor. Basically...
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
All right. So how did this wind up when you got home?
I mean, there wasn't really a conversation. I just put him out.
Like, and that was kinda, you know...
We're now separated.
(APPLAUSE)
That's a pretty short conversation.
JUDGE DANA: Is this the only thing he's done in the past?
No.
Okay, tell me about what else he's done.
Uh, like I said with the woman, with Correta, um,
what happened was he went out.
He's like, "Oh, I'm going out with a family member. I'll be back."
And he was gone for four days.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
JUDGE KEITH: Four days?
Four days.
When was this?
He was gone for four days. So when he came back,
you know, I'm like, "You know,
"you can get your stuff," and I changed my locks.
No phone call, no text message, no nothing.
I did call you.
He told me...
JUDGE DANA: Okay, now what call...
I was with one of my friends.
It was one of my best friends.
He told me he was with a family member
and that... The first night, he said,
"Oh, well, I was intoxicated. I drank too much. And then I couldn't drive home."
That's true too. That's what happened.
KIONIA: What happened the other two days?
Yeah, what happened the other two days?
Yeah.
That's a whole nother occasion you talking about.
I left overnight. I didn't wanna drive back, so...
I was too drunk, I slept in the car.
Didn't come back the next day.
Okay. You keep mentioning a Correta.
What did you find out about Correta?
KIONIA: Around New Year's Eve,
I happened to call him because
someone was breaking into my house, which he chose not to believe.
And as I'm talking to him,
I hear a female in the background
and I actually spoke to her
and she's like, "Oh, well, this is my man and..."
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
"We've been together for such and such..." And I'm like, "Okay."
JUDGE KEITH: What, you spoke to her?
Yeah.
You gave her the phone?
TERENCE: I don't know how they talked.
We talked on your phone.
How?
You were right there.
I didn't have no other woman.
She was telling me that...
Okay. I'm stuck on the part about
your wife calling you
and then you giving the phone to your girlfriend
so your girlfriend can talk to your wife.
Did that happen?
Yeah, that did happen.
But...
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
JUDGE DANA: Okay!
I'm not sure if being a player is your thing.
Did Correta know you were married?
TERENCE: Yes. She did.
And I talked to her myself.
She told me that he told her
that he had filed divorce papers.
Me and him were no longer together...
Just... And then...
She lied to you. 'Cause I never told her that.
I told her I was still married. We weren't even talking about a divorce.
It's kinda hard for the pot to call the cauldron black on this one.
I mean, you telling lies. How can you say she lied?
She's saying that they were trying to plan a baby together and all of this just...
TERENCE: You see who she said that to.
She said it to my wife. I mean, come on.
She trying to get you mad.
When did your relationship with this Correta end?
I don't know the exact date. It was before Valentine's Day.
Oh. (LAUGHS)
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
Then that's a real player move, to break up right before Valentine's Day.
All right. So you have not been with Correta since
February of 2015?
Correct. I did text her.
We did text, but that was...
Just recently, like, couple of weeks ago.
But your concern is he's still sleeping with her. Is that correct?
Yes, and there's also another woman
that I think he's still dealing with.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
Okay. Wait a minute.
There's a number two?
Me and him separated, um...
Again. Um, and he told me that
he was going to get his own apartment.
And I found out he was living with another woman.
How did you find that out?
Our son told me. He was like, you know,
he was like, "There's a girl."
But I had found out, like... Before he moved out,
I knew he was communicating with this woman because
she was on Facebook making all types of statuses.
Facebook tells everything.
So I kinda put two and two together and
I kinda questioned my son. I was like, "Is this the..." I showed her...
Showed him the picture of her and he's like, "Yeah, that's her."
Instantly, right off the bat.
You told me you were moving alone, but...
Mr. Hicks, were you living with someone else?
Yes, I was.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
But, we were separated.
Then I actually ran into them
at a store together. Him and the other one.
They're house shopping. Like...
(ALL EXCLAIMING)
Crock pots and all type, you know, blenders...
You know, things for the house. And I'm like...
Okay.
So did you have your own place or was she moved in with you?
We moved in together.
She knew about Kionia. She knew the situation I was in.
I was trying to move on from it, and...
You know, we bonded on another level and that's how that happened.
Well, you know that's a problem.
Because you shouldn't be bonding with anybody but your wife.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
JUDGE DANA: So why did you have him come home a month ago?
Why did you allow him back in your house?
He called me.
"Oh, I wanna come home. I'm done with the back-and-forth."
So I thought we had a mutual understanding.
I never called her and said that.
JUDGE KEITH: What did you say?
JUDGE DANA: Well, how did you get back there then?
We had a discussion.
All right. Tell me about that.
We had a conversation and I was basically,
asking her what she wanted to do.
I told her what I wanted to do.
BOTH: Which was?
Hey.
(ALL LAUGHING)
I told her I wanted to be with her.
Did you want to get back with him?
Once I found out he was living with another woman
I said, "You know, if you're gonna come back
"you can't do the back-and-forth.
"You have to completely be done."
And he's like, "Oh, I'm done," and
he wanted to video-chat me and prove to me that he's packing up all his stuff,
but he gets home and...
He's still doing the same stuff.
He came back one night with a different pair of underwear on.
And I'm like...
(SCOFFS)
JUDGE DANA: Okay, wait a minute.
You've let him back in the house a month ago...
Yes.
What, "let him back"? He's saying he wanted to come back home.
No. No, no, no. You don't get to...
She allowed him back home.
It's his house too.
No, it ain't. Not if you do what he did.
It ain't his house. It's her house.
JUDGE KEITH: I think it's more comfortable to say
they agreed that he would come back home.
All right. For the sake of this... Moving this along,
I'm gonna say that you all agreed for him to come home.
All right. Do you have an apartment with anyone else?
Right now?
JUDGE DANA: Yeah!
No.
That there was a long thought.
Long pause.
Cutler, do you have another house or not?
No.
Okay.
You see how he did that?
(ALL LAUGHING)
That's what that should look like.
Yeah.
KIONIA: There's just too many instances...
Okay.
Mrs. Hicks, you wanna know if he's still involved with this woman Correta
and you also wanna find out if he is involved with someone else.
Yes, Your Honor.
This court has tracked down Correta.
(AUDIENCE GASPS)
(APPLAUSE AND CHEERS)
Where's she at?
And she's here.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
Ron, would you please show her in?
RON: Yes, Your Honor.
(APPLAUSE)
Take a seat right up next to the judges.
Hello.
Hello.
Hi, how are you?
I'm good.
JUDGE DANA: Do you know Mr. Hicks?
CORRETA: I sure do.
Right.
Tell us about that. How do you know him?
I met him
about a year or two ago on a website.
Never was married.
No ring ever in sight.
But he came to see me while I was there with their child.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
JUDGE DANA: You took your child...
That is not true. No!
CORRETA: Yes. We went to the mall.
Had a good old time, me, him and his friend.
No, we didn't.
So did you go visit her and take your child to see her?
KIONIA: Tell the truth.
CORRETA: He's lying. He's lying.
No. I did not.
You took my... Wow.
JUDGE KEITH: How long were you together?
I started messing with him after I got pregnant.
That's not true!
We messed around from January to...
CORRETA: He's lying.
From December to... The end of December to right before Valentine's Day.
After that, I never seen her again.
He's lying.
JUDGE DANA: Mrs. Hicks,
what are you thinking right now?
That's not the story. I got pregnant with my daughter in April.
So, like...
And I got pregnant in February.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMS)
When me and her did communicate, she did tell me that she was pregnant.
I didn't get her pregnant.
But...
He kept saying, right off the bat,
that that's not his child.
CORRETA: Excuse me.
When I got pregnant, he was happy.
He came to my mother's house, rubbed on my belly.
You know, saying that he wanted a little girl.
And guess what, that's what I had.
And he never told you he was married?
After it came out, 'cause yeah, I put a picture of him on Facebook.
I commented on it. I didn't say bae or, you know, "I love you,"
'cause we weren't at that level, whatever.
And she commented on it like, "Excuse me, I'm his wife,"
and made a whole long paragraph.
TERENCE: I told her I was married.
And then my mom was the one who commented on Facebook.
His friends told him, "Go ahead and be real and tell her like a man."
"Okay, I am but I'm getting a divorce."
So like I said, there was no ring ever in sight.
And they'd believe him. He picked me up.
We drove to their house to go get her and her child.
I'm in the front seat, she gets in the back with her child.
You actually picked up your girlfriend with your wife?
Did that happen?
Yes, it did.
TERENCE: I pulled her...
What?
She didn't wanna get out of the front seat.
I kept telling her...
You didn't tell me to get out.
She was like, "No, and she got to fight me to get this front seat..."
JUDGE DANA: It doesn't matter!
It doesn't...
You have missed the point.
(ALL LAUGHING)
JUDGE DANA: No woman, let me say that again,
no woman wants to be in the car
front, back, the roof,
with her husband and his girlfriend.
JUDGE KEITH: Ms. Marion, uh,
Mr. Hicks has testified that
the last time he was with you
was two years ago.
CORRETA: That's true.
But he has texted me recently.
He sent me a little emoji with the little purple thing
meaning I missed his penis.
And I said, "I like cats now."
Wait, I'm sorry there's a...
(ALL LAUGHING AND WHOOPING)
She lying.
There's a purple emoji that says...
Cutler.
Cutler, let me translate.
CORRETA: Please.
(INDISTINCT)
He sent her an eggplant emoji.
Okay. All right.
That's the sign for a man.
Yeah.
And...
Meaning he want to get with her.
Right.
JUDGE DANA: She sent back a picture of a cat.
'Cause she's no longer doing guys.
She's doing girl. Is that fair?
Thank you.
JUDGE DANA: All right.
(APPLAUSE)
JUDGE DANA: You something else.
There was no emoji.
This was last week.
He told me he hadn't talked to her
in five months.
I never sent no eggplant emoji.
CORRETA: Man, that far out.
Okay, that's the part you're denying?
What, no, he did say... He did say
that he talked to her these two weeks.
You know, see how she was doing or whatnot.
That's not how he came at me.
Do you know anything about him dating other women?
Yes.
How do you know that?
Um, I asked him, "Who do you live with?"
I said, "Do you live with your girl?"
He said, "No. I, um...
"Did a lease with another chick."
I got all of my screenshots.
Let me see what you have.
I'll show a screenshot and everything.
This is a text message and it says,
(JUDGE DANA READING)
Okay. And he says...
(JUDGE DANA READING)
Was he talking about Kionia?
No. A whole nother chick.
JUDGE KEITH: And, Mr. Hicks, you signed a lease with this girl?
As of right now,
I don't live with another girl.
My stuff is... My stuff is at home.
But you got a lease with somebody else?
I... I was lying to her.
Okay. Again, here is the emoji, sir.
I've got the text message right here.
All of them texts are from Terence.
And that little green... Well, purple emoji is the little eggplant.
Yeah. That's an eggplant, all day.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHS)
So, he... The date is last week.
I was at work. I'm not lying, yeah?
Did you send her an eggplant?
See... Look...
JUDGE DANA: Earth...
Earth to Mr. Hicks.
Okay, look, can I talk?
Yeah, I want you to talk.
I can't wait to hear you talk.
We wanna hear this.
I'll sit back for this one.
I was drinking, you know? I was drinking.
(AUDIENCE EXCLAIMING)
Last week, you were at home with me.
I was drinking, and... I told Kionia about this situation.
I say, "You know what, Correta texted me.
"She almost got me."
KIONIA: You still cheating. That's cheating.
That's cheating in your mind?
Because if she would have let you, you would have slept with her.
Definitely would have.
No, I wouldn't have. You know that.
If she would have let you...
Come on, now.
I... Okay, I think...
The reason why we've been...
I think we've actually heard enough.
Yeah.
JUDGE DANA: Mrs. Hicks, let me just say this,
you are a lovely young lady.
And if you were my daughter,
I would tell you, you need a good man.
A man who's gonna value you, and love you,
and treat you like the queen that you are.
JUDGE KEITH: Mr. Hicks, are you in it to win it?
Are you in it with your wife
for the long haul?
Am I the only one agreeing to something?
JUDGE DANA: No. We're talking to you.
Yes, I am.
Have your questions been answered?
No. He's still lying.
JUDGE DANA: You deserve better, and in spite of his behavior,
he deserves to do better.
We always say in this courtroom,
"Don't cheat yourself
"out of the chance for a good relationship."
Court is adjourned.
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