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Cleantech and Coffee with Erik Ubels from OVG - Duration: 6:26.

(Josh) Okay. So welcome everyone to another episode of cleantech and coffee. We're

sitting here with Erik Ubels from OVG and we've just

finished the Nuuka Smart Breakfast here today in Stockholm. It was a great day. A

lot of people turned up to hear about you know where where smart buildings are

at and where they're going. I thought I'd grab Erik before he heads back off to...

where are you heading next? You're heading back to back to Amsterdam? oh yeah great.

So, one of the questions that we had for you. You were influential in the

building of The Edge. Can you talk a little bit about the feedback you've had

on this, what from my perspective is quite a spectacular building? (Erik) Yeah. I mean,

the feedback at the building went viral of course not even when it was finished

even before. I think OVG was pushing the sustainability envelope and the

intelligence you know the smartness of the building to an extent never seen

before. I think we are even still amazed today about

how many people come by and want to see the building. Want to talk to us and

we're proud of that of course. But the most important thing at the end of

the day: you build a building for the tenants, for the people who live in the

building. The more people apply for a job at that

company just because they want to work in that building. I mean you cannot even

believe it. We knew that buildings are going to be

tremendously important for the attractiveness of a company. What is your

signalling to the community? What they want to be as a company and especially

in this this war of talent which is going on, to find the best attractive

people. That building is going to be a huge part of it and that's what's happened

to us. (Josh) Yeah, that's an interesting outcome to hear that about the attraction of talent

because, how does that work in relation to this idea of you know remote people

wanting to work remotely and have flexibility in their jobs? (Erik) I think

there's a very interesting thing we start to notice. For a very long

time I mean open garden kind of office spaces are not new.

The so-called flex and this stuff and I think people slowly start to realize

there's no single answer to either the office of the future, so we don't claim

to know the answer. We think an office will be many different things to many

different people. So a building has to apply to that and give that to the

users.But we also of course people will work from home, work in the Starbucks

work wherever they were. At the same time we see that the building going to a

location, to work with your colleagues, to work with your customers, even to relax

and maybe go for the fitness or whatever, the community around the building

all of that starts to play a role and I mean with all the technology, we don't

know where this is going. I mean I can be sitting next to you

while I'm at home with augmented reality, and yet we think human values are connecting, seeing, reading

your expression, being next to you face-to-face. So we believe that there's

always going to be place for buildings as long as they are attractive and

healthy and sustainable. (Josh) Well you've definitely made sure that with The Edge.

So based on your background then and expertise where do you think

the biggest developments will be in this industry in the coming 3 years

(Erik) I think there's a whole lot of things going on in this industry.

When we talk about putting sensors in the building and making it smarter, then

it's about digitalization of the actual product, which is going you know just

started. The Internet of Things, Fourth Industrial Revolution, whatever you call

it just started. Especially because we can apply machine learning and learn

from the building and make it contingency improve on energy and

sustainability, this is also for the whole design process, the development in

3D models, the construction and maintenance. But at the end of the

day we build buildings for people, and the well-being the health is absolutely

the number one thing to go after. People need to feel energized, looking forward

to go to the location. Not saying 'Ahhh, I have to go to the office again'. No 'I am

going to the office. Yeah we'll have good coffee. I will be to work out. I will see

my friend. Yes!' So, I think the whole well-being is absolutely our

mainstay at the moment.This is the most important thing. We love sustainability

and technology but it's enabled us for what we do. And yet we see that the

industry really has to get their act together to be much smarter and not just

making a building smarter because you can apply as many sensors in the ceiling

as you want. (Josh) I think our Chairman mentioned is are you building a dumb one

with smart features, or is it a legitimate smart building. So there is a difference.

(Erik) But that's also how the industry produces these kind of components. Now they're

all separate. There's no reason to have them separate. They all need a

cable. They all need power, so combine them with light because it makes a

lot of sense. You already have energy there. So it also has to do with

lowering the construction cost. Lowering the amount of material being used. There

are so many parallel systems in the building today, which is basically

ridiculous if you take a, if you really want to claim that you're sustainable

you also have to look into the how much copper is actually being used in the

building to get all of this stuff working. We can get it down with

the industry if they really start thinking about building it differently.

(Josh) Yeah, and working together I guess? Well that's a super

interesting way to finish off this quick cleantech and coffee here at the Nuuka

Smart Breakfast. We hope you enjoyed being here, and I know I speak on behalf

of everyone at Nuuka for being here. (Erik) I thank you

for having us here. It's a pleasure to meet with I mean,

yet another a large crowd of people and for us it's not only nice to tell a

story, but every time we meet people we have bright ideas and come up with new

technologies and there's always something new to be found. (Josh) Well, it's a

journey. (Erik) Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. (Josh) Thanks for coming on. Tune in for another

episode of cleantech and coffee sometime in the future!